Friday, May 28, 2010
Professional vs. Average.
There is a major difference in having a professional position and an average position. I think having visible tattoos at a grocery store or an auto store, would be totally acceptable, considering they are not completely professional businesses. I do not think people should not be hired for jobs such as that because of visible tattoos. However, as I stated earlier, if they were at a law firm, corporate company, or any other professional type of company or business, I know I would question them and their ability to help me and give me what I need.
Again, I have absolutely nothing against tattoos. I do believe, however, If certain companies want to look more professional, then I believe it is more then fine to hire the people who are going to help create that look for them.
Now why do tattoos matter so much? They are a way of expressing one's self, true. They are also a way of judging somebody before even meeting them, again true. The issue is not whether tattoos are good or bad. The issue is are they suitable for a work environment, particullarly in Boutaful.
I would say tattos are not appropriate for a work envoronment. When I go and see a play that was placed in the 1800's it sure helps me understand what's going on when they dress, talk, and act a certain way. I expect the same thing in the work feild. When I go to the dentist, he better be wearing gloves when he's cleaning my mouth. My waitress wearing a name tag makes me feel inclined to compliment her on her great service or ask for assistance. I know as well as anyone else that tattoos aren't going to hurt anybody. (Except in the matter of pornagraphyic or crude ones, but that's another story for another day). But as I walk into a work environment I do expect certain things. For one I want to be comfortable, expecailly if I'm doing buisness. Yes when I see a man/woman in a nice attire and very clean cut I am more welcome to open up and get things done. Now I'm not saying that because somebody has a tattoo I'm inclined to run away. I just prefer the buisness clean cut look, because then I know what to expect and what I'm looking for. Piercings definatly distract me when I'm talking to someone, because I will try to make eye contact but the focus is drawn to the the shiny piercing.
The thing is the law in Bountiful isn't that one can't have tattoos; just that they can't be visable. That is not taking away their rights. To me it's like we could all be naked but we choose to cover ourselfs up. It's creating an environment that the employers want. Which in all fairness they don't have to hire anybody they didn't want to. If they want their buisness to reflect on what they belive in such as comfort and trust, then they should have a say as to how they want their buisness run.
I agree to new policy of Bountiful city
Why Image Is So Important
Judging a Book by It's Cover
Discriminations? I don’t’ think so!
I was curious to read what others commented about the article, here were some of my findings:
“When I am hiring people for work and two people are in the running my choice will always be for the one who looks clean and professional - tatoos makes people look dirty and nose rings look like boogers are hanging from their nose. I can judge people by their appearance and determine that their look is not what I want in my company. That is my right. The consequence of your "personallity" would be not getting the job. If you want to wear those things on your own time that is your right. Who I choose to represent my business is my right. Sometimes looks are "everthing!!!!!!".”
“I am a college graduate, I dont smoke, drink, I am not over weight, and I have a great job, I am married with two little girls, I attend church and I HAVE 3 TATTOOS. Am I a freak? Get a life! You people who get offended by a simple tattoo need to grow up and get a life.”
It is obvious that some of the opinions are very different but I must agree with the first, you choose who you want to represent you and your company. However, the second commenter does have a good point. Either way I am strongly against discrimination but in my opinion, this is not discrimination.
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It is time we as concerned upholders of the blessed first amendment took a stand. Bountiful City went too far a long time ago, but now they've become prideful in their power, and will no doubt be unprepared for the onslaught which we will bring to their door. We will send them a message! We will let them know that our free speech is MUCH more important than theirs! How dare they attempt to oppress us in order to present a "professional" image? We will start a protest the likes of which those Tea Party dirtbags have never even DREAMED! Our motto? "We don't care that the same tax-payers that would pay our salary also voted you into office! We refuse to relinquish our right to voluntarily and intentionally enter into a counter-culture, meanwhile causing our appearances to be, exactly as we hoped they would be, contrary to what is considered acceptable by the fascist "vast majority" and expect to still be paid to work in a job where we visually represent the very city which we are protesting!!!"
OK, so it's kind of a long motto. I'm the riler, not the motto-comer-up-wither. We'll talk to him and get him to come up with something a little more catchy. But you get the point! We're not going to stand for this anymore! Discrimination against things we have extremely voluntarily chosen to do must end!
Thursday, May 27, 2010
Not Unconstituational in the least bit.
I wonder why it is such a big deal when Bountiful city does this, but why it is not a big deal when my employer Ross Dress for Less or a plethora of other companies require tattoos to be covered? They are not preventing people from free speech by covering their tattoos at work, what they do on their own time is their business. Bountiful city wants to present itself as a professional city with professional employees, where is the crime in that?
Regulation in the Work Place
Just because tattoos are becoming popular in fashion does not mean that they are acceptable. If running around naked became popular would we make sure that everyone would be allowed to do it just because it could be called discrimination if we didn’t? Not allowing visible tattoos in the workplace is completely different from being prejudice against someone’s skin color, or race. What someone purposely puts on their body is different from the skin someone is born with. It is simply putting regulation on employee uniform.
The law does not say that tattoos are not allowed at all, it’s just they can’t be seen while you are at work. It is in fact more professional to not have graffiti all over your body while you are working hard to represent a well respected company. The city has every right to chose what the employee should wear and how they should look while representing the city.
I understand that some tattoos have special meaning, but if you choose to have that special meaning displayed PERMANENTLY on your body, why not have it somewhere where it can easily be hidden while at work and then shown off on your own free time? When you get old and wrinkled the image or words will become distorted then what are you going to do when you have something hideous on your arm that you can’t hide and no one can tell what it is? There has to be a professional atmosphere in the work place, especially when you are representing a city. If you have a tattoo that you don’t want to hide while working then work somewhere else.
bountiful discrimating people wiht a tattoo or piercing
It is understandable to have some standards as a society for jobs, but also I think that the every job has different requirements. I believe that for some jobs it really won’t matter if the person has a tattoo or not, but for others it will, because for example for doctor having a noticeable tattoo wouldn’t be right, because it would look not too professional. Therefore I believe that for every person there is a job, and people with a tattoo shouldn’t be discriminated, because we have to help our community to grow and make people feel comfortable
Sentimental value
Is it a sin ?
it is not hard to understand why UPS cares if their employees have tattoos; some tattoos may be scary, and employees represent the company. People do not want a stranger with scary tattoos to knock on their door to deliver package, do they ?
A person has their own choice to smoke, drink, get tattoos, or watch pornography. As long as it does no to go against any laws, a person can do it, if they really want. Not all tattoos are appropriate to display in front of people in public. It is important to remember we don't need to worry about what other people think of us, but we do not want miss opportunities because others think that we are vulgar people. So, think twice before getting a tattoo.
Prejudice
Everyone has Rights
One might argue that in this case, people more suitable for the job will be denied a position. However, in a job where you represent a company or institution, and they want to have a clean cut appearance, you will not be the most suitable. The outer appearance of somebody does not change their aptitude or capabilities, but it does change ones confidence or impression. How would you feel if the man about to operate on your heart rolls up his sleeves to reveal a giant Grim Reaper and spider web on his arm? Nervous? Is it fair that you would judge him in that way? It might not be, but we must understand that things like that will influence a company in looking to hire an employee.
I am glad that the city are taking a stand and not hiding behind a wall of obscurity. It is better that they came out and expressed their concerns and desires, rather than just turn away applicant for an unknown cause. We all have rights, but must remember that so does everyone else, including Bountiful City.
Is This Discrimination, Yes
Fair? I don't think so.
I think that tattoos are fantastic when they have a high artistic value. I see tattoos as a way of expressing yourself similar to music or other art mediums. Putting a law into effect that makes it so employers can’t hire people with visible tattoos feels like a form of discrimination. I agree with one of the people interviewed on his opinion that if the tattoos are pornographic or represent hate groups then that can definitely be reason not to hire someone. If the subject matter of the visible tattoos is not offensive, I see no reason that it should be legal to deny someone work because of their appearance.
Applying this same law to body piercings feels like it is more on the fair side. It’s unreasonable to ask someone to rip off their tattoos when at the workplace, but where piercings are usually easily removed I think that employers should be able to choose their own policy on body piercings.
Personally I don’t have any plans to get any tattoos or piercings, but I don’t think that it is fair to treat individuals that do any differently than people who don’t. Tattoos are a form of speech through symbols or images in my mind and this law seems like it would be denying an individuals freedom of speech.
Wednesday, May 26, 2010
Tattoo, Really
Just because one person is not offended by this form of art, does not mean that everyone is not offended by having to look at an arm, leg, or even a face that has a tattoo all over it. We all have the choice to smoke or look at pornography if that is the sort of stuff you want in your environment, so we should also have the choice to look at tattoos. With so many tattoos being vulgar and pornographic, this forces the employers to cut the line at the top and just say no to any tattoos.
UPS is having the same issues with their employees. UPS requires the employees to keep all tattoos covered with clothing. This means that you have to wear long pants, long sleeved shirts or maybe just some high socks to cover your tats. They feel that the employees are a reflection of the company when they are going door to door, that the public will not be scared to open the door to a clean cut, no piercing, tattoo free package delivery person that comes knocking on their door. I feel that the employer is the one paying the wages, therefore has the right to tell the employee what they want and expect from them. The employee can find another job if they do not want to conform to the company rules.
Link For Friday's Blog
Thursday, May 20, 2010
Updated Reading & Assignment Schedule
Wednesday, May 19, 2010
Class Cancellation 5/19
Tuesday, May 11, 2010
Believing and Doubting
- Home schooling is just as beneficial to a young person as public schooling.
- It should be illegal to use a cell phone while driving.
- To help fight terrorism and promote public safety, individuals should be willing to give up some of their rights.
- College students who know what they want to do for a career should be able to skip general education requirements.
- Students and teachers should not be allowed to communicate with each other via social networking sites like Facebook.
- In recent years, advertising has made enormous gains in portraying women as strong, independent, and intelligent.
- There should be a tax on unhealthy foods, similar to current taxes on tobacco and alcohol.
- Potential employers should be able to reject job candidates because of tattoos, piercings, or extreme hairstyles.
- Drivers of high-consumption vehicles (SUVs, muscle cars, big trucks, etc.) should pay an energy tax.
- In order to decrease our dependence on foreign sources of oil, we should increase drilling off-shore and in the ANWR province of Alaska.
- If there is a law I believe to be immoral or unjust, I should refuse to follow it.
- High schools should censor what kind of reading material is available to students.
- Performance-enhancing drugs should be legalized and regulated in professional sports.
- Grades are an effective means of motivating students to do their best work.
- Child vaccinations for measles, chicken pox, hepatitis, H1N1, etc. should be mandatory.
- We should be able to adapt the United States Constitution to meet the needs of the 21st Century.
- Illegal immigrants should be deported.
- Testing medications, beauty products, and weapons on animals is cruel and should be banned.
- Whoever gets the most votes in a presidential election should be elected. We should do away with the electoral college system.
- In order to save money, we should cancel the space program and focus on our own planet.
Monday, May 10, 2010
Financial Aid
Question
Will of the Majority vs. Defense of the Minority
Immigration vs Constitutional Rights
Sunday, May 9, 2010
Health and Death
Nature vs. Nurture
Health Care
Question
bareun
Self Defence
Question- Cheryl Lindberg
Civil Rights Anomaly
Video games
Saturday, May 8, 2010
Question
Monday, May 3, 2010
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